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Hotmail now with free POP3 access

Hotmail has finally moved out of the Age of Stupid and entered the Age of Last Century by allowing free POP3 and SMTP access. It has been available for some time already for Hotmail Plus subscribers, but as Hotmail Plus was a paid service and competitors such as GMail offered free POP3, IMAP and SMTP access it was not widely adopted.

If you're asking yourself what is POP3 how does it relate to my Hotmail and why do I care, then let's break it down.

POP3 is a standard method used by email programs to communicate with email servers. Programs like Pegasus Mail, ThunderBird, Outlook Express, Outlook and most importantly MailWasher, can all communicate with email accounts so long as they support POP3.

Hotmail though used a proprietary system, that is, there were no documented standards on the way it communicated. As a result, to get Hotmail working with a program like MailWasher all those years ago, we had to dig and probe other programs like Outlook Express which did work with Hotmail, and figure it out manually. This took a lot of time...and money...and as a result Nick had to cancel the lease on his Maserati. True story.

But we got there, and in 2003 MailWasher was working with Hotmail accounts using the WebDav protocol, which was the same method used by Outlook Express.

In 2004 Microsoft stopped allowing new Hotmail users access to their accounts using WebDav, old Hotmail accounts still worked, but if new subscribers wanted their Hotmail account to work with programs like MailWasher or Outlook Express they had to sign up for Hotmail Premium. Again a paid service and not widely adopted.

Sadly too, when Microsoft launched Live and any user ‘upgraded’ their free Hotmail account to use the new Live Services, this too disabled WebDav access, even if the account was older than 2004.

In April 2008, Microsoft then announced WebDav support for all Hotmail accounts would end in June 2008, in favour of their new DeltaSync protocol. DeltaSync was proprietary, so again for us to make Hotmail accounts work with MailWasher we would have had to go digging in probing into the back end of Microsoft software. It was at this point we decided we’ve had enough of looking into Microsoft’s back end, and our DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS continued to work on more meaningful projects.

In June 2008 Hotmail Plus subscribers could get POP access to their accounts, for a fee.

Clear as mud all that is, and while all this is going on Google Mail (GMail) had launched and was offering free POP3 access for all users.

But now POP3 access is now available to Hotmail users in the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, France, Japan, Spain, Germany, Italy, and the Netherlands. Microsoft plans to roll out POP3 access to more parts of the world later this year. You can find the settings below:

• POP server: pop3.live.com
• POP server port: 995
• POP SSL required? Yes
• User name: Your Windows Live ID, for example yourname@hotmail.com
• Password: The password you usually use to sign in to Hotmail or Windows Live
• SMTP server: smtp.live.com
• SMTP server port: 25
• SMTP Authentication required? Yes (same as POP3 username and password)
• SMTP SSL required? Yes

More details are here on the Windows Live Mail blog

If you are not lucky enough to be in a country with POP3 access yet, then you can simply alter your Hotmail account to a country that does, make it go, then move your country back. This is what I did and it worked well for me, here is an article on altering your country to the United Kingdom, to allow free POP3 access.

http://www.mydigitallife.info/2009/01/22/hack-to-enable-hotmail-pop3-and-smtp-support-instantly-for-all-countries/

All we need now is Hotmail to move into the Age of 5 Years Ago and allow free IMAP access. Then I can access my Hotmail Spam folder in MailWasher, as unfortunately using this POP3 access you will only see your Inbox messages in MailWasher.

 

EDIT : The world wide rollout is now complete,so there should be no reason now to chnage your country to get this working.

 

Cheers for the headsup Chris

Cheers for the headsup Chris :)

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Chris, I noticed that the

Chris, I noticed that the instructions are for POP access, and yet the blog is titled POP and IMAP - do you know if IMAP is being looked at as an alternative for users as well?

No I just got over-excited

No I just got over-excited and named the blog post wrong ;)

Lol. I've been known to do

Lol. I've been known to do that some myself

I prefer gmail over hotmail.

I prefer gmail over hotmail. Hotmail is always slow for me, and gmail is faster. But there still is no replacing the speed of your own smtp/pop access.

Many of the Louis Vuitton

Many of the Louis Vuitton products utilize the signature brown Damier and Louis Vuitton Epi Leather, both of which were first used in the late 19th century. All of the Louis Vuitton Taiga Leather products exhibit the eponymous LV initials.

Thank god for pop3 email, I

Thank god for pop3 email, I hate being restricted to web-based email.

Many of the Louis Vuitton

Many of the Louis Vuitton products utilize the signature brown Damier and Louis Vuitton Epi Leather, both of which were first used in the late 19th century. All of the Louis Vuitton Taiga Leather products exhibit the eponymous LV initials.

Chris, Is there any way I can

Chris,

Is there any way I can be considered a BETA tester for the upcoming release of the new MW ?

Please contact me;

Hi there. Check out this

Hi there. Check out this post for details on testing MailWasher http://www.firetrust.com/en/blog/chris/mailwasher-pro-needs-testers

Dear Chris, Thanks for the

Dear Chris,

Thanks for the explanation! This has made things very clear for me.

I was a user of outlook express, and it was very smooth. Now, the webdav is gone, and I hate my pop3 connection since need to use an email client from multiple computers.

Can deltasynch work for me, so that I can use an email client and have different computers stay in synch with my email? Or ... how long do you think it will take hotmail to get imap, even as a paid service.

I can change to gmail ... but that would be a long hard process to change my email.

DeltaSynch will work so long

DeltaSynch will work so long as you use Windows Live Mail, or MS Outlook I believe.

You could also still use POP3 across multiple clients, but set to leave all mail on the server. However folder structures etc...won't be maintained across the email programs.

I just added my hotmail to

I just added my hotmail to Outlook on my machine as well as another account on another machine using the pop3 format and have run into an issue that I don't know how to resolve.

Outlook keeps redownloading the entire hotmail emails so that I now have 2,3 and now 4 copies of the same email. How do I stop the multiple downloads?

Hi Jon You might want to ask

Hi Jon

You might want to ask Hotmail support about that, I see a few others are in the same situation as you
http://windowslivehelp.com/community/t/108673.aspx

Cheers

Is there any way I can be

Is there any way I can be considered a BETA tester for the upcoming release of the new MW .
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