Since posting the big ass list of websites that we think are very dodgy, we’ve drawn a crapload of comments from..... <Christopher !! – Stop Swearing !!!> ......<Sorry Mum>.....sigh.....
Since posting a rather substantial list of websites, that are fraudulent in nature either by selling counterfeit merchandise or simply taking orders but never sending product, we’ve drawn a significant amount of comments from folk who either are still interested in buying branded product from unofficial Chinese websites, or have themselves become victims.
I’m not quite sure what it is that drives people to believe they can buy quality and legitimate branded product like Nike and Rolex from China without going through the brand owners proper authorised distribution channels, but then I also think that’s irrelevant at this point. Though there is some further reading on FraudWatchers as well which I think reiterates the issues.
To help cope with the number of comments we’ve attracted, and to further try to help folk who have been ‘taken’ by these websites, I’d like to offer the following information on authorities within China you can contact.
Before I get into those details, something I should stress a great deal is be extremely wary of your manner, I say this because when people are rude to me, I quite often just ignore them. We aren’t in Texas, and those who shout loudest will not win. China is also a very big place, and there is a significant amount of beauracracy that often has to be dealt with, and while this can be frustrating, it’s something you should be prepared for given you are considering dealing with China.
- Never swear or use any racial slurs in your communication. The contact details below I give, I give because they can help, they are not trying to take money from you, or make your process painful. If you become insulting you may easy offend people and lose their support.
- Always spell check, and use proper language, such as no slang in any written communication. English is not their first language, if you use text speak, slang, or just not bother to spell check properly you make it extremely difficult. Things can often get lost in translation, and misunderstandings can occur.
- Be as clear, and concise, and thorough as possible. The more information you can give the better.
The Ministry of Commerce to the Peoples Republic of China
The most helpful government department I’ve ever dealt with. I’ve sent them three separate enquiries and each time received a reply within 24 hours. They will not have all the answers, but they are excellent at redirecting your enquiry and giving you advice on whom you could contact regarding your specific questions. You can view a lot of the previous questions that have been asked and answered as well here http://gzly.mofcom.gov.cn/website/pubmail/pubmail_list.jsp
Website : http://english.mofcom.gov.cn/
Contact Online : http://gzly.mofcom.gov.cn/website/pubmail/send_mail_en.jsp
Local Administration for Industry and Commerce
Here you can confirm the validity, and if the company is legally registered. You can also check if it has certificates for foreign trade. If the company you check turns out to be illegal or fraudulent, then the local relevant authorities will take action to terminate it. Well, that’s the theory. I have yet to see it work yet.
Inquiries about Registration and Operation of Enterprise in China
http://www.fdi.gov.cn:8080/pub/FDI/qycx/qycx_en/info.jsp
You need to be sure you select the Region, if none of your searching turns up any results then contact the local authorities for Industry and Commerce, as each province within China has its own Industry and Commerce Administration Bureau there are many branches, full details here.
Contact website for local authorities
If you don’t know which province, check the website you are looking to deal with.
You may also use the Local Administration for Industry and Commerce to contact for complaints if something is wrong with the transaction.
Mediation Center of the China Council for the Promotion of International Trade
If something goes wrong with your transaction, and you have already tried to contact your Chinese business partner to resolve without success, then these are the folk to talk to.
Phone number- +86-10-68080117
Email - flwangfang@ccpit.org
Website - http://english.ccpit.org/
I have personally tried to contact that email address, but have not yet received a reply. I don’t know why that might be, but these were the contact details I was given, so I simply pass them on at this point.
Further Complaints
Obviously if you have, or believe you have become the victim of a criminal act, you should file a complaint with local Police. Also the Internet Crime Complaint Centre would be another good option. It shouldn't matter what country you are in.
I hope this helps. If you have more information that can improve this post I'd like to know.
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Cheers
Chris
Hello! I have ordered from
Hopefully one of the
hi i ,ll mention some
Thanks, adding to the list
I just want everyone to know
Also www.by-well.com is
www.bywell.com.cn is this
my girlfriend had a terrible
I've spoken with both
I sent them money!!! Did you
DID YOU GET ANYTHING YET, I
YES I AM FEUDING WITH THEM
Hello, I ordered 2 phones
Try the contacts above
hi, sombody knows something
Scam site.
Most likely fraudulent
Hopefully those contact
Hopefully those contact links above will give you some success, in regards to warning more victims, posting on the net like this is a good way to create a searchable record.
You could also try local TV or newspapers, see if they'd write an article about your experience. We often feel embarrassed by being scammed and I think any exposure like this can be good....it just dents our pride a little :)
I got scammed
Thanks for letting me know,
by-well.com and
I lost over $1000.00 it is
There's probably very little
Hi, First of all thank you
Those sites are valid, but
Those sites are valid, but that doesn't mean the people you deal with will be. These sites have been known to have been used by scammers etc... to find new victims.
So you still need to take every precaution.
This website seems to be the
Well this part certainly
Well this part certainly isn't true.
Hello is http://oxugo.com
attention cette personne est
This site is already in the
hey ,http://oxugo.com no
red flags - hotmail.com
Hi, I've been searching for
Actfind are selling fakes,
Actfind are selling fakes, but apparently they are 'honest' about that.
I'm finding it hard to see decent information around Actusglobal, but from all the websites I've seen they certainly give a better appearance of being legitimate
Hello, I have two bad
Is there a site that lists
There's plenty of other
Hello, I was wanting to know
First contact Local Police
First contact Local Police or FBI and talk to someone in the CyberCrime/Fraud Unit. Also file a complaint with www.ic3.gov
The Chinese Embassy in your area/country would also be worth trying.
At the very least this will create an audit trail, which may be needed later.
Very much try those contact links in the above posting, in the hope they'll put you onto proper law enforcement in China etc....if you visit the websites mentioned too you'll see phone numbers. It's possible that you may also encounter language problems when trying to call, so I would suggest consider hiring an interpretor, maybe there is a local school or some such thing where someone can help you if you do encounter language issues. The key is getting them to understand exactly what your situation is, so they can properly assist you. It may even be the FBI has translation resources that you can use.
I'm surprised in all of this, given the large amount involved. But it's important to get as many people aware and involved as you can, because I believe due to the high amount you are more likley to get assistance from those who can truly help you.
what should i look for when
Have a read
Have a read here
http://www.firetrust.com/en/blog/chris/anatomy-of-a-chinese-scam
www.wqlh168.com I PURCAHSED
This website appears offline
I was on www.eecv.com and I
Generally speaking if you
Generally speaking if you are only buying a single phone you really should just buy local, the quality, and proper buyer protections are in place if you do that.
Must of eecv.com are
Hello, I have come across a
Sorry for the dealy, no,
HELLO: I WAS SCAMMED OUT OF
Try the contact details