Since posting the big ass list of websites that we think are very dodgy, we’ve drawn a crapload of comments from..... <Christopher !! – Stop Swearing !!!> ......<Sorry Mum>.....sigh.....
Since posting a rather substantial list of websites, that are fraudulent in nature either by selling counterfeit merchandise or simply taking orders but never sending product, we’ve drawn a significant amount of comments from folk who either are still interested in buying branded product from unofficial Chinese websites, or have themselves become victims.
I’m not quite sure what it is that drives people to believe they can buy quality and legitimate branded product like Nike and Rolex from China without going through the brand owners proper authorised distribution channels, but then I also think that’s irrelevant at this point. Though there is some further reading on FraudWatchers as well which I think reiterates the issues.
To help cope with the number of comments we’ve attracted, and to further try to help folk who have been ‘taken’ by these websites, I’d like to offer the following information on authorities within China you can contact.
Before I get into those details, something I should stress a great deal is be extremely wary of your manner, I say this because when people are rude to me, I quite often just ignore them. We aren’t in Texas, and those who shout loudest will not win. China is also a very big place, and there is a significant amount of beauracracy that often has to be dealt with, and while this can be frustrating, it’s something you should be prepared for given you are considering dealing with China.
The Ministry of Commerce to the Peoples Republic of China
The most helpful government department I’ve ever dealt with. I’ve sent them three separate enquiries and each time received a reply within 24 hours. They will not have all the answers, but they are excellent at redirecting your enquiry and giving you advice on whom you could contact regarding your specific questions. You can view a lot of the previous questions that have been asked and answered as well here http://gzly.mofcom.gov.cn/website/pubmail/pubmail_list.jsp
Website : http://english.mofcom.gov.cn/
Contact Online : http://gzly.mofcom.gov.cn/website/pubmail/send_mail_en.jsp
Local Administration for Industry and Commerce
Here you can confirm the validity, and if the company is legally registered. You can also check if it has certificates for foreign trade. If the company you check turns out to be illegal or fraudulent, then the local relevant authorities will take action to terminate it. Well, that’s the theory. I have yet to see it work yet.
Inquiries about Registration and Operation of Enterprise in China
http://www.fdi.gov.cn:8080/pub/FDI/qycx/qycx_en/info.jsp
You need to be sure you select the Region, if none of your searching turns up any results then contact the local authorities for Industry and Commerce, as each province within China has its own Industry and Commerce Administration Bureau there are many branches, full details here.
Contact website for local authorities
If you don’t know which province, check the website you are looking to deal with.
You may also use the Local Administration for Industry and Commerce to contact for complaints if something is wrong with the transaction.
Mediation Center of the China Council for the Promotion of International Trade
If something goes wrong with your transaction, and you have already tried to contact your Chinese business partner to resolve without success, then these are the folk to talk to.
Phone number- +86-10-68080117
Email - flwangfang@ccpit.org
Website - http://english.ccpit.org/
I have personally tried to contact that email address, but have not yet received a reply. I don’t know why that might be, but these were the contact details I was given, so I simply pass them on at this point.
Further Complaints
Obviously if you have, or believe you have become the victim of a criminal act, you should file a complaint with local Police. Also the Internet Crime Complaint Centre would be another good option. It shouldn't matter what country you are in.
I hope this helps. If you have more information that can improve this post I'd like to know.
29th May 2008 - Comments are now disabled, people aren't reading properly and wasting my time. Comments will only be taken through http://www.firetrust.com/en/blog/chris/the-bigger-list-of-chinese-scams
Cheers
Chris
hi
i ,ll mention some scammer site hope its work
www.cbgeg.com
www.honesty1.com
www.elewholesale.com
www.myshoponline66.com
www.ufcie.com
I just want everyone to know ecvv.com and alibaba.com are the biggest scammer websites out there. There is not one legitimate company on that website. Both of the websites are fraud. After i reported a company for being fraud they still let them be on their website. They are all in on it because they are making money they dont care about the poeple losing it to the companies they have on there.
www.bywell.com.cn is this the same as by-well you refer to? I too have had a bad experiance, but don't know what to do. All I know is the contact name on yahoo is Linda Sosa, paypalisok@yahoo.com
she sent me to a robert (who speaks better English appearently)his contact is allbrandname@hotmail.com. Could this be the same as yours?
my girlfriend had a terrible issue with Robert allbrandname@hotmail.com too! He lied to her about having a bag in stock.
After sending money over, he refused to refund and demanded that she buy bags from him that she doesn't want.
Is there a way to get him?
I've spoken with both "Linda" and "Robert" with the same email addresses. He's scammed me and stolen my money too. I'm currently exchanging emails with him still, he refuses to refund my money. I'm not sure how long more he will keep replying me, but I'm not expecting anything good to come of it.
I sent them money!!! Did you get anything from them or did they steal your money? I am so nervous and please let me know
DID YOU GET ANYTHING YET, I WISH I FOUND THIS LAST MONTH. I ORDERED AND CAN TELL I WONT GET A REFUND OR ANY GOODS.
YES I AM FEUDING WITH THEM RIGHT NOW. BY-WELL. DID YOU EVER GET YOUR MONEY OR GOODS. THEY FOUND MY AD ON IOFFER AND SAID THEY HAD WHAT I WANTED. I PAID AND AFTER WEEKS THEY SAY THEY DONT HAVE IN STOCK AND NOW WONT REFUND ME.
Hello,
I ordered 2 phones from www.shoes88trade.com and got scammed. The person I talked the were Lee Lin and Vera Lin. They gave me this payment information, maybe they could be tracked throught this account owner.
Beneficiary Institution : Bank of China Putian Branch
SWIFT: BKCHCNBJ73C
PAYEE: wenxuan xu
BEN’S ACCOUNT: 4552301-0188-094326-0
BEN’S TELEPHON: 08613599878404
I contacted with them under different name throught msn and I believe that today they are using already different site - http://www.ecpeak-trading.com/ and they sent this payment information:
Beneficiary Institution : Bank of China Putian Branch
SWIFT: BKCHCNBJ73C
PAYEE: Liping Lin
BEN’S ACCOUNT: 4552301-0188-091730-8
BEN’S TELEPHON: 086-0594-6669620
Is there a possibility to contact maybe Putian police somehow? The money I lost was for educational purposes and its OK, but I do not want these persons to scam people furter.
best regards,
Indrek
Most likely fraudulent transaction with www.totrend.com. Believe I have been scammed out of electronic goods that will never arrive. They stated they would send me tracking information immediately and it has been over 24 hrs. I tried to communicate via msn and got them online but once they determined that I had already paid they dropped communication. Several subsequent attempts on different computers yielded an online conversation but again, once it was determined that I was looking for a confirmation number the communication ceased.
I was scammmed out of over $1000.00. They gave me bank details but I wanted the products purchased before Christmas so went for Western Union. bad move. The site is still active and they are still taking orders, though it goes off and on, whereas in prior days the site was always accessible.
This really is a shame as it makes it difficult for any legitamite chinese based companies to conduct international trade via the internet. I wish I had consulted this site and really do not know if I have any recourse.
Very elaborate scheme with links to Chinese business authorties, banking codes and accounts, registerd on other sites with credit checks,links to tracking numbers at DHL, UPS, etc. with dates and delievery details.
Any advice or method to forwarn those that may be future victims?
I have an entire folder of information, bank details, reference numbers to Chinese Business bureau. Contact names, phone numbers, weblinks, western union transfer codes, names, refering cites on MSN, emails, etc.
Hopefully those contact links above will give you some success, in regards to warning more victims, posting on the net like this is a good way to create a searchable record.
You could also try local TV or newspapers, see if they'd write an article about your experience. We often feel embarrassed by being scammed and I think any exposure like this can be good....it just dents our pride a little :)
I lost over $1000.00 it is now confirmed. I was able to get them online for a chat and they basically told me their were a scam after recieving my money. Lord, their were so many red flags, I was just to determined to get a good deal that I was oblivious. It was almost like gambling.
PLease avoid the following sites www.totrend.com, www.buy-2008.com,www.mallwelt.com
They all have posting on MSN on thousands of listed products. Their sites are still active. I have taken the interest to file a complaint at sevaeral fraud sites including ic3.org and various chinese minsitries.
Thanks for a site for victims of online fraud via bigus chinese wholesellers.
Had I only done some more research.
Is there any remuniaration for victims of chinese online fraud. Their government has enough to compensate victims and they passively allow for this to occur.
There's probably very little chance you'll see that money again, it's one of the reasons that these scams are so successful given the difficulty of alerting proper Chinese authorities and having them follow through.
Hi, First of all thank you for putting this page together, it certainly helps when thinking about importing for the first time.
I can not seem to see DHgate.com and ecvv.com on any scam list is this a good indication that these sites are valid or is precaution still needed?
Regards
Those sites are valid, but that doesn't mean the people you deal with will be. These sites have been known to have been used by scammers etc... to find new victims.
So you still need to take every precaution.
This website seems to be the replacement for the recently deconstructed delcomobile.com site. The same exact style of site and broadly the same office details as Delcomobile.... Beware of these people, definitely scammers...
Well this part certainly isn't true.
hey ,http://oxugo.com no safe company ,cheat my money for 5 untis N95 1000euro in all .plz dont buy from him .
i have buy from chinese guy is good ,and safe
is :nokia.market@hotmail.com
i buy ,and after 10 days received .
i am happy ...........
Hi, I've been searching for any validity of this http://www.actfind.com & http://www.actusglobal.com site. Can anyone give me more details or where I can get more details on this 2 company?
Actfind are selling fakes, but apparently they are 'honest' about that.
I'm finding it hard to see decent information around Actusglobal, but from all the websites I've seen they certainly give a better appearance of being legitimate
Hello, I have two bad experience with actfind.com
1. I ordered some goods, at 13/12/2007 and already paid by paypal. After 3 days no news from them, then I emailed they said that the goods are out of stock (WTF?). They told me a week after new year they will send the goods. I ask them to refund my money if they cant get on the goods. January 16th, they still dont give my money back,so with still a little bit of patience I decided to use my payment money to order another goods and cancelled my first one.
2. The second ordered were actually processed and delivered at 24th of January. What happened was, in my order, I choose DHL (more expensive) shipping method and they send it to me using EMS (cheaper by 15 USD).
I have not yet received my order, so....please DO NOT ORDER FROM ACTFIND.COM or you will get tricked!!!!
proof can be seen here: http://www.bw.net/companies-feedback/2258-actfind-com-true-scam.html#post6494
Is there a site that lists valid companies only where folks have had success in dealing with them? That way we would not have to worry so much about the scam sites. I have plans to visit China this spring in search of reputable companies. Maybe we should get a group and travel and purchase together. Just a thought.
There's plenty of other websites that offer things like this, my advice is try over at http://www.thewholesaleforums.co.uk
Hello, I was wanting to know if anyone knew who to contact in China, law officials or anyone becuase I have sent 26,250.00 to a company by the name of FuJian FeiTian Trading Co., Ltd. and they kept it, cutting off all communication with me... They were on tradkey as a drop shipper, so I listed some phones on e-bay and took their money and purchased the phones, so now I may be facing jail time because I used them as a drop shipper.. I could use any help that onyone can offer, I am desperate, I have my house on the market and don't know what else to do...LOST OVER 26,000.00 USD...
First contact Local Police or FBI and talk to someone in the CyberCrime/Fraud Unit. Also file a complaint with www.ic3.gov
The Chinese Embassy in your area/country would also be worth trying.
At the very least this will create an audit trail, which may be needed later.
Very much try those contact links in the above posting, in the hope they'll put you onto proper law enforcement in China etc....if you visit the websites mentioned too you'll see phone numbers. It's possible that you may also encounter language problems when trying to call, so I would suggest consider hiring an interpretor, maybe there is a local school or some such thing where someone can help you if you do encounter language issues. The key is getting them to understand exactly what your situation is, so they can properly assist you. It may even be the FBI has translation resources that you can use.
I'm surprised in all of this, given the large amount involved. But it's important to get as many people aware and involved as you can, because I believe due to the high amount you are more likley to get assistance from those who can truly help you.
what should i look for when i think a site is a scam. i too have found great deals on ecvv.com but i want to make sure i dont get ripped off...what do you think?
www.wqlh168.com I PURCAHSED A 4 WHEELER BUT I DID PAY WITH PAYPAL I EVEN CALL ED PAYPAL TO CONFIRM SELLERS PAYPAL ADDRESS THEY TOLD HE HIS GOOD STANDING WITH NO PROBLEMS IS THIS SITE A SCAM SITE IVE SENT 3200 THRU PAYPAL THIS WAS THE INFO FOR THE SITE LISTED ABOVE Our company's name is BEJING KENI ELECTRON TECHNOLOGICAL LTD
The number is 86+15993130398 THE PAYPAL ADDRESS I SENT THE MONEY TOO IS xiangming1972taijing@yahoo.com.cn.PLEASE ANY INFO WILL HELP
I was on www.eecv.com and I was looking to purchas a new phone and I was wonderfing if the seller is a gold supplier and also has his licenses verified by china mainland suppliers are they a pretty safe company to trust.And what kind of suspisious stuff should I look for when dealing with some of these people.Please let me know Thankyou
Generally speaking if you are only buying a single phone you really should just buy local, the quality, and proper buyer protections are in place if you do that.
Must of eecv.com are scamers, if you want to really find out if they are is very easy.
Since must of them said they live in China at the beginig dont said anything let them feel comfortabel with you but just when they invit you to send money trough western Union just tell them that you like there phone number and adress, ones you have these tell them you will ask a friend who lives in the same area to pick up the goods in person and that the transaction will be hand to hand............There in mst of the caises they simpy disapear.
Hello,
I have come across a site called http://www.faddy168.com and wanted to buy a 17" Apple BacBook Pro from them.
There only Payment source is PayPal, but how is my money protected if i do not receive the item?
I went to Your Guide on scams and it seems there website was created on 28/10/07 but i do understand new sites come up all the time.
I have been talking with the On-Line Live Help for hours and ive even told them that i think they are a scamming web-site and they have reasured me they are not by giving me other peoples tracking numbers so i can see for myself.
http://www.ems.com.cn/english-main.jsp
A Pc to UK - EA978801896CN
A PS3 to USA - EA978800025CN
Please Could you help me finding out if this is a Scam.
Kind Regards
Anthony Trueman
Sorry for the dealy, no, this website shouldn't be trusted. They use fake information and will just take your money
HELLO:
I WAS SCAMMED OUT OF $2050.00 USD BY HAO LI THE WEB SITE IS http://www.nik9888.com!! I ORDERED 2 TV'S 2 NINTENDO WII'S 1 BOSE ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM, 1 NINTENDO DS LITE, HE OR SHE WHAT EVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM TOOK ME FOR $1400 USD THE FIRST TIME AND TOLD ME THAT MY ITEMS WERE IN ROUTE TO ME AND GAVE ME A SHIPPING NUMBER, THEN WHEN THE SHIPPING TRACKING NUMBER SHOWED UP THAT IT WAS DELIVERED TO NEW YORK AND SOME ONE ELSE SIGNED FOR IT I WAS TOLD IT WAS A MISTAKE ON THE TRACKING NUMBER I RECEIVED THE WRONG TRACKING NUMBER, THEN I WAS TOLD I HAD TO PAY 60% CUSTOM TAX SO THE CHINA CUSTOMS WOULD RELEASE MY ITEMS TO BE SHIPPED, WHEN I REFUSED TO PAY IT I WAS TOLD EITHER PAY IT OR LOOSE EVERYTHING SO I HAD NO CHOICE TO PAY IT I DIDN'T WANT TO LOOSE MY MONEY SO I PAID THE OTHER HALF OF $650 USD AND I WAS GIVEN ANOTHER TRACKING NUMBER AND IT SHOWED UP THAT IT WAS DELIVERED TO THE UK, WHEN I QUESTIONED WHAT WAS GOING ON AND TOLD THEM TO EITHER GIVE ME MY MONEY BACK OR SEND THE PRODUCTS THEY WANTED ME TO PAY ANOTHER $800 USD I WENT NUTS AND I TOLD THEM THAT I WAS GOING TO FILE A CLAIM WITH THE INTERNET FRAUD UNIT AND THE CHINA POLICE THEY TOLD ME TO GO AHEAD THAT NOTHING WILL GET DONE TO THEM, THEN WHEN I ASKED FOR MY MONEY BACK THEY TOLD ME THAT I WAS MAKING THEM ANGERY AND THAT THEY WERE GOING TO DELETE ME FROM THEIR LIST AND REPORT SCAM CHARGES ON ME, I TOLD THEM THEY WERE CRAZY.
ANYWAYS I DONE MY RESEARCH ON THE WEB SITE LIKE I READ, AND WHEN I DO SO COME TO FIND OUT IT WAS LISTED TO CA. IN THE USA AND HAD A PHONE NUMBER L.A. INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT??
IS THEIR ANYTHING ELSE I CAN DO TO TRY TO BRING THIS SCAM SITE TO PAY FOR WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO PEOPLE. THIS HAO LI IS A SCAM!!
THANKS,
SCAMMED TWICE
DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS SITE, CAN THEY BE TRUSTED http://www.y16888.com/ evasales01@hotmail.com I KNOW IT'S AN HOTMAIL ACCOUNT BUT HAS ANY ONE EVER PURCHASED FROM THEM BEFORE??
IS THEIR ANY TRUST WORTHY ELECTRONIC COMPANIES TO DEAL WITH IN CHINA THAT HAS REASONABLE PRICES??
THANKS,
MALE
This website is already on the list. For legitimate suppliers try a Wholesale forum like www.thewholesaleforums.co.uk but my belief is that you won't find decent branded electronics.
have been cheated by www.buyavevaga.com. I ordered for a phone and it never came
One more: ibbbc.com
I think it's scram. Money were paid (Western Union) but... no goods...
Do you know anything about it?
Thank you
i was planning to send money this week but i think it is scam coz the site is down... somethiing fishy....
your post is of great help
I want to buy a plasma or a LCD TV. What is the best place to buy one at an affortable price.
friend , I always doing business with www.colgoods.com but this time they have blocked me in msn, how can I do?
Hello, has anyone ever tried the site www.Apple-Nokia.com ? I cant find it in the list. They don't accept paypal under 10000 and i do not wish to do a western union money order. please check it out and let me know
There is no way these goods are legitimate, assuming they do actually exist.
There is also no real reaon why they can't give you a proper secure form of payment, the scammers will make all kinds of excuses why they can't take the money.
Hi there
Is this site www.oeuom.com legit? It looks just like that other site on the list www.idgcweb.com.
I SENT $10,000 TO STARWAYTRADE.COM FOR SOME PHONES AND THEY DROP SHIPPED FOR ME. MY CUSTOMERS GOT PHONES BUT THEY WERE NOT AS PROMISED. THEY WERE SUPPOSE TO BE THE REAL DEAL. I GOT FAKES AND NOW ALL OF MY CUSTOMERS ARE MAD. I HAVE TRIED CONTACTING THE PERSON THAT SOLD THEM TO ME AND HE SAID SHIP THEM BACK TO HIM AND HE CAN FIX IT BUT NOW I CANNOT TRUST THAT THEY WILL FIX IT. I THINK HE IS A SCAMMER AND HE WILL JUST KEEP THE PHONES IF I SHIP THEM BACK TO HIM. I KNOW THEY ARE ON EC21 ALSO. I SEEN ALOT OF THE NAMES FROM THERE WEBSITE ON EC21 AND THEY ALL SAY THEY ARE THE CEO,I HAVE EVERYONE FROM THERE WEBSITE ON MY MSN MESSANGER. I TOLD ONE LADY ABOUT IT AND SHE SAID YOU KNOW YOU CANNOT BY ELECTRONICS FROM CHINA.THEY SEND JUNK AND I FOUND THEM ON ALIBABA. I HAVE FOUND SOME PRETTY BAD SUPPLIERS ON ALIBABA. OH YEAH ANOTHER SCAMMER IS UNIVERSE163.COM. I CANT FIND THERE SITE EITHER. I FOUND THEM AGAIN THE OTHER DAY BUT I FORGOT THE NAME OF THE SITE I WILL POST IT WHEN I FIND THEM AGAIN.
stiltner
Hey, Stiltner
I want to know who was the person who served you.
Because I think I'm chatting with the same people
That Ripped you off
Please submit in the Name
and Number
Have you all heard about sellerhot.com, ebayedi.com... real cheap tv and electronic stuff.. but i just want to make sure is a real company.. does any body knows this company. please get back to me before i make any purchases.....
thank you
There's a reason it 'seems' so cheap :)
First site is already in the list, adding the second as well.
I was scammed by all three of these companies and they still have
their websites up, but stopped communication as soon as they had
scammed all the money they could then they stopped communication,
sent no products, but elelstor took the time to send fake tracking
numbers, and 1 real tracking number but instead of an IPhone sent
a 2.00 string necklace. Stay away from all of them, plus have/had
stores on DHgate.com too
1. elelstor.com cheated me out of $1086US
2. finalbestoffer.com cheated me out of $782.50US
3. happy'sbuy.com cheated me out of $500US
I'm interested in buying something from voguebagworld.com. Will they send me the item though.
Hi its Tina again just wanted to let you know ( if you dont already know ) the one that got us is down (www.tvpcshop.com) if you type in the website it comes up with nothing . Sorry to say after spending some time on your web page i do believe they will be up and running in no time (if they havent already done so ) under a new name thanks so much for the time you have put into your website I just wish i would have found it sooner .Maybe someone reading my post will invest somewhere else . thanks again and keep up the great work you are doing
Thanks Tina. We are adding sites all the time, so it won't be long before they are on the list again :)
hi
i do not know why this site:www.linsirshoes.com was in this list of scams,i have done business with the company.l am satisfied with their goods and service,when i sent out the money ,they sent my goods out as soon as possible,5days later i have received their goods,so i do not know why this company in this list of scams,pls check it ,thanks
I too was victim of one of those scamming websites. Can you please check out www.eleshopping.com - they offer payment via visa but i'm still not too sure
Hi Jacki
Adding this site to the list. No, they do not offer Visa, they direct you to transfer from your VIsa into their bank account, which is considered a Cash Advance, which in turn if anything goes wrong you are not able to retrieve the funds as your bank will clear the funds immediately.
hi! id like to know as soon as possible if this is a scam site! i will be ordering clothes worth $500 for my business..tnx! i know this site can help me.
hi i forgot to write the website. well anyway i want to know if this site http://www.yiyipf.com/index.html is a scammer. I will buy clothes from them worth $500.. i was wondering if you could check it out! tnx so mu\ch. hope to hear from you. pls pls help me! tnx
Hi there
Adding to the list. Fake email addresses and phone numbers have been provided in their website registration.
Hi. i bought stuff from YIYIPF .. and they sent it to the WRONG address. and it's very hard to communicate with them. so it is your CHOICE and you taking the RISK but i do know SOME people who got their items safely... so start with a small order.
Hi i was scammed 800-900$ dollars from www.powertrder-e.com and is there a way of getting the money back and following with her. I got her details and her mobile number and her name and her email address. Is there anyway i can contact her?
Thanks Chris,
Has anyone heard of anybody getting scammed by easternstage.com? I have looked at the site and I am ready to order, but I am trying to find out is this site legit.
Take a look at this site and tell me what you think: www.rgetion.com
It seems ok, but it throws up 2 flags you you talk about and I'm just not sure. Also add: www.fashion-apparels.com to your list scammers they took about $900.00 from me. Thanks for the great site!
Thanks, will add.
The other site doesn't throw up the usual junk I've come to expect, so my first suggestion would be to try the Shenzhen Administration for Trade and Commerce just to be sure they are legally registered. Obviously the same concerns regarding payment method etc...still apply.
Thanks for checking that out. The only things that worry me is the T/T payment method and the site has only been regestered since Aug 07
Do you have a link to the Shenzhen Commerce? Google pull up a lot of junk, Thanks again.
Yeap, above under the section labelled
Local Administration for Industry and Commerce
There is a link there that points to contact details for all the different branches. They are phone numbers only though, so I'm not sure how easy it will be to communicate.
hi,
i have been cheeted by a site called: www.shopoicq.com
BANK NAME:BANK OF CHINA BEIJING BRANCH
BANK'S ADD:NO.8,YaBaolu,ChaoYang District,Beijing,China
A/C holder's name: He Hai Feng
First name: Hai Feng Last name: He
A/C No: 4105100-0188-007521-6
SWIFT CODE:BKCH CN BJ 110
i have payed 3205euros,..on the 17 of december.2007.via bank transfer...to this account...above
after,..they promissed they send all the items by cristmas,..
they even send me the photo of the fedex tracking numbers and all the shipment papers,...and on the 23,of december,i got an e-mal from them,..all the items halled by the customs,in china..and i have to pay 60%of the purches price for import-export tax,and gst,..
they even send me all the custom paperwork,on photo like the fedex tracking numbers,...they so professional..it is amazing...
i hesitated for couple of day,..communicating with them by email,...they promissed to me a free camera and gps,..as a compensation for all the trouble,..not to getting my things by christmas,...
so i send them a custom payment money 1923euros via bank transfer,...i even opened a bank of china account for myself to make a business easier in the future,...
after when they received the "custom payment" from me,..they send me an email,..to thank me,...and havent herd of them sence,..they not even have a website anymore,..they phone number not exist anymore,..i even talked to them on the phone,..by the way ,..the only way you could order from them if you register on they website,..
well i did,...they tricked me,..amazingly so professional people....
beware of them,...
and they wasn't even a very cheap price's...like all other one's do...
please everybody,...
dont send money on front!!!
please,...like i did!!!
Hi my name is tony and I just 2 days ago sent $$$4100 us dollars to www.nike-2008.com. This scam issue never crossed my mind. Im a bit slow with computers.Anyways the point is that I bought 272pc. of clothing for 15 dollars each piece supposively with shipping included. Now they are saying that I have to pay 10 dollars extra for each item for shipping or they will only send me 160pc. I have the email stating shipping included and I sent it to them. No response yet. Im sweating like a pig!! I just read a posting and saw that one of the wire transfers from one person sending to trading888 or something matched some of the same wire info they gave me. the only difference was the payee and the last 3 numbers, but it also said( bens account)!!!!
bank of china putain branch
933 wenxian road,
cheng xiang district
putain 351100, fujian prov, china
swift: bkch cn bj 73c
payee: yumei Zhang
bens account; 4552301-0188-093386-9
they just got the wire today and they are already changing the story on me.im still waiting for there response. At this point what should I do?
You paid this money by bank transfer ? Try talking to your bank and see if there is any options available to you
Also talk to local Police, Fraud Unit, as there is no way these guys are legit. You could also try some of those contact details in China, but at this point often people don't seem to get much help from Chinese authorities.
Hi there can you check out this site for me please, www.cheapndiscount.com thanks alot.
Hello,
I was trying to start a business and have came across dhgate.com. I didn't see it on the list ans was wondering if they are ok to order from. I know the have power sellers that are supposed to be good. Are all the items fake? Also a couple sites here in the USA, can they sell fake goods here over the net?
DHGate just introduce you to sellers, but you must use your own judgement whether they are safe and/or legitimate. My understanding is that DHGate now provide an Escrow service as well which you can use to better safeguard yourself from being scammed.
Hi,
I found a wholesale on ecvv.com and was looking to buy an XBox 360 Elite Bundle for about $215 including shipping to Australia. Their information is given below and I Was just wondering if they are a scamming operation.
Company Name: Fujian Xiamen BaQi Trade Co. Ltd
Contact Person: Mr. Jimmy
Address: Unit 234, Marketplace, No.287-289, South Siming Road, Siming, Xiamen, Fujian, China
Telephone: +86-594-2612278
Fax: +86--2612278
WebSite: www.xiamenbaqi.com
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If it sounds too good to be true then it probably is :)
I don't trust this website at all, adding to the list.
Hi there can you check out this site for me please,
www.daegoe-wholesaler.com
www.daegoe.com
A & V Certified,BIZVERFIED Company Member by SMR asia)What this Mean?
Website: daegoe.en.busytrade.com
Marketing,Customer Relation Mgr
Support line : 0086-13660337798
Daegoe Industrial Company Limited
(Registration No.3874400200012072 & Incorporation Certificate No.1195509)
Hongkong : Rm.# 10-01,Fourseas Bldg.,No.208-212,Nathan Rd.,Kowloon.
Guangzhou : No.30,Yinfeng Bldg,FL-8,Yunshan Ave.,Huadou,Guangzhou,Guangdong
Tel : 0086-020-39652123 Fax : 0086-020-39651220
Well also and they website they Show Bussines registration certificate.
What do you think ??? i try to heat the link to check the bussines registration Number but , come up sayin "" error that page can no be displayed, I will Apreciate all your Help??? Thanks??
thanks alot.
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As best as I can tell, they only setup in 28th December 2007, as they aren't trying to sell branded products that makes it better, but only being what seems to be a few weeks old owuld make me extremely cautious.
I also cannot find their name here http://www.fdi.gov.cn:8080/pub/FDI/qycx/qycx_en/info.jsp
am sorry for you guys encounter. here i can help you guys get your money back. i am in China. if you want to get your money back contact with me. offer me the scamer's specific information. fight against scame!!! my mail huanxin1985@163.com
Mindy, it would be great if you could contact local Chinese Police, what many of us want to know is what officials can we contact, especially as most people do not speak any Chinese. If someone within China can explain to us the best way to make a complaint and have it taken seriously, I am sure many people would be greatful.
Dear Chris & all,
Someone did mention that the company below is a scammer:-
@2001-2008 Shenzhen SUNSKY Technology Limited All Rights Reserved.
Email: sales@sun-usb.com MSN: sales@sun-usb.com , sunsky.sales@hotmail.com
TeL: 86-755-61302080 Fax: 86-755-61302090
Website : http://www.sun-usb.com , http://sunsky.en.alibaba.com
Address : 13/D ,B Wing , Windows Building , Huaqiangbei Road, Futian District, Shenzhen, China
Is it true? Since it is not in the list. Could pls help to verify?
A check at http://www.checkdomain.com/cgi-bin/checkdomain.pl?domain=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sun-usb.com seems to be quite ok?
Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
Dave
Hi Dave
I've chosen not to add them as they look like a cheap Chinese electronics seller, not in line with the other scam sites I see.
Hello everyone,
I just want to let everyone know that I was scammed out of $400 usd from this company
bestchoice4you.net. They communicated with me all through the ordering process but once I sent them my money the last response I got from them is we shipped out your order today and we will email you back with the tracking number and I never heard anything from them, this happened a year ago. I have gone on their site under a different name and they will respond back. Please add this site to your list. There are alot of good suppliers in china you just have to do your research. Thank you for this page.
I am like you want to do business with daegoe.com gathering information but not positive or negative. I sold my nokia n95 an "original" 335usd and if not legit. If they find something negative or doing business with the report please, I hare the same. Thanks
Joder_vilkorf@hotmail.com
There is not anything obvious about this website that leads me to think it is a scam. I've written plenty about validating Chinese companies so you could try that next.
hi
could you please verify those web site for me ,because i want to buy an articles from them,but i think there is vrificaton sign in the web site,so please help me,i want some information.those web site are:
ELESHOPPING
BISTOMOBILE
JIMELECTRONICSLTD.COM
eleshopping.com - Already on the list
bistomobile.com - Will not load
jimelectronicsltd.com - Only accepts Western Union, which if you read the guides I wrote, you would realise is a huge warning sign
Hey, my name is TJ Moore and I was wondering is www.21cn-shoes.com a legit site. I have been debating to buy some air force ones on this site for a cheaper price.
Hi,
I want to buy a phone to this gentleman, a nokia n95 and say this is the original manufacturer of NOKIA, beijing-China is not the first thing if nokia phones manufactured in China, if someone has information about this company that I would like to communicate what I , joder_vilkorf@hotmail.com
Company name:GUANGZHOU YOUMEI ART MATERIAL CO??LTD
"PROFEEL BEAUTY INTERNATIONAL INDUSTRIAL LIMITED
ADD: 9F ,Jianxin Building ,No.65-69 ,GuangYuanZhong Rd ,
Bai Yun District , Guangzhou China ,P.O.:510400
TEL:0086-595-22165056
FAX:0086-595-36248091"
msn:nokia.market@hotmail.com
http://picasaweb.google.com/nokiamarket0
I highly doubt that claim, as Nokia have authorised resellers not any twit with a Hotmail account and a free Google gallery of images.
Ah, forgot to say that I offered to make a payment of 50% and when I reached the phone the other 50%. Can be a fraud. THANKS
Hello,
Please can i know if www.wyxyeas.com its a scam, please answere to my mail.
Thanks
I'd be suspcious, but given the nature of the product they may well be legitimate.
www.wyxyeas.com
Updated Date: 24-jul-2007
Creation Date: 25-jul-2006
Expiration Date: 25-jul-2008
Try the Administration for Industry and Commerce if you still have doubts, as they will tell you for certain.
Can anyone tell me if www.Brandfashin.com a legit site. And if VogueBagWorld.com is and www.51607.com
www.Brandfashin.com - I get no site found.
VogueBagWorld.com - Already on the list.
www.51607.com - This is being added to the list.
Could you please check out www.zpnike.com, www.stepworth.com, www.global-share.com, www.wholesalecentral.com/cawholesale and www.nike-af1.com? Thank you
I wouldn't trust any of these, you cannot buy legitimate brands like this from China.
www.zpnike.com - Counterfeit or scammers
www.stepworth.com - Already on the list.
www.global-share.com - Counterfeit or scammers
www.wholesalecentral.com/cawholesale -They even acknowledge it's counterfeit
www.nike-af1.com - Counterfeit or scammers
Hi, i from Canada, Montreal, Québec and i have get fraud by a website from china on ecvv.com site. i have buy 2 ps3 + 1 xbox 360 + 1 nintendo wii + 20 games for 1200$ us and i receive 2 fake iphone . i try to contact them on msn and their not respond me .i want to now if i can do something.i really need you help please. the scam site is
Company Name: Fujian Oversea Trade Co.,Ltd Gold China supplier
Contact Person: Mr. Michael Owen
Address: #26 Huandao Road,huangli District,xiamen,fujian,china
Telephone: +86-594-6869232
Fax: +86-594-6869231
WebSite: www.shft.ecvv.com
Adding to the list. Above in the main post I detail all the contact details I have that might be able to help, so I first suggest you try some of those as well as contact ECVV and alert them also.
I have checked the list to try and see if the site www.51607.com is listed and found nothing, their prices are extremely cheaper then anywhere else... However, before I buy from them I was wondering if anyone from here has dealt with them beforehand? They accept paypal and are also an ebay sponsored link... does this make them legit or is that just some of the measures these scam sites have gone and gotten to?
Thanks.
You cannot buy these brands from websites like this in China, so it's either counterfeit or they are scammers.
They say they've been going since 2001, but their website was created late 2006. Just more lies to deceive you.
I recently received a tradekey.com offer from weifengmarket.com. AKA Weifeng Trade Co., Ltd. They're a "Silver Key" Tradekey member. I can't find them on the scammer list here. They're offering a digital camera, a Canon EOS 5D with the 24-105 lens, for $910. So far they've appeared very professional, and sent me a company invoice in email and directions for sending the money via Western Union. After I send the funds, they'll confirm it and send the tracking number, etc.
Anybody have anything on this company? I tried doing a Google search for "Weifeng Trade" and it comes up with two other companies with that name: Dongguan Weifeng Trade Co. and Putian Chengxiang Weifeng Trade Co. Are these all the same companies, or what?
Thanks a heap,
Ron M.
Ron, never deal with Western Union, it offers you zero protection so you are just being setup to be scammed, or sent something that isn't what you would expect.
Adding this website to the list.
Did you ever received your camera? Is it an original one or a cheap copy?
I am about to trade with them via tradekey.com as well.
If you have any info about their reliability please let me know.
Kind Regards
smakris@aimhigh.com.cy
I was ripped off by joeaki.com. He was very responsive to me throughout the process, calling me "brother" and giving me a reference to contact, who verified he did indeed receive GHD hair iron from Joe. I went ahead despite the red flags (Western Union only) and of course lost $250. I am a single mom with 3 kids and I spent my tax money as a treat for my girls to get Uggs. Oh well. I am usually so internet savvy so I have no idea how I let myself get fooled like that. I have been in contact with his reference and he told me he wasn't buying from "Joe" anymore. So please, do not buy from joeaki.com. He stopped communicating with me as soon as he picked up my money. According to whois this is his info - does it sound fake?
zhou, ming joeaki1983@gmail.com
shanghai,china
shanghai, shanghai 350003
China
059187867695 Fax --
The address is certainly lacking. When I visit that website though I see nothing about GHD hair irons, was there another website they listed these items on ?
Just browsing through the Chinese exporters, contacted a few, all of whom seem sketchy. I came across this site and thought I'd throw it out there. I figure if one of these sites are offering the Apple iPhone then it must be a scam. I wanted to earn some extra money but I see this isn't the way to do it. Just reading these posts has soured me on dealing with exporters over the net. Is there any way for someone such as myself to find honest companies? Thanks and good luck to all. :-)
www.livishoes.ecvv.com
Thanks, Chris. I feel like an idiot for even being INTERESTED in any of these "Chinese wholesalers." No way on earth they're going to be getting $900 for a camera with an MSRP of $5,500. One even said I could have it for $440!!!
It's notable how convincing some of them can be. They sent me a very businesslike shipping invoice showing the cost, addresses, various tracking and inventory numbers, effective dates, signatures, etc. and their emails were very professional and friendly.
Like the old saying goes, "if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is."
Ron M.
i am also planning to buy from Weifeng Trade CO.,LTD
did you got the 900$ camera??
what should i do??
Hello
I've lost money to these two Chinese fraudsters, 1. on list already, only saw it after I had sent payment by T/T and got a fake trinket in post.
The other is a gold member on alibaba, but again sent me a fake camera. What kills me is that Alibaba do nothing and pass the onus onto me. The reason I look at a Gold member is because they are supposed to be the most trustworthy. I won't be using alibaba again for original brand sourcing.
1. http://www.ggimmemore.com/
I sent them $900 for sample, they sent me $2 jewellery gift and took my money.
(1)Bank name:BANK OF CHINA NANYANG BRANCH HENAN PROVINCE P.R.CHINA
(2)Bank address: NO.129,QIYI ROAD,NANYANG HENAN CHINA
(3) A/C NO.: 628566020068466
(4)A/C holder : Zhu Wang(First name: Zhu Last name: Wang)
(5)SWIFT CODE: BKCHCNBJ530
2. http://bxb.en.alibaba.com/offerdetail/204162840/Digital_Camcorder_d2x_camera_Eos_5d_Eos_1d_Eos_5d_Eos_500d_EOS_30D_EOS_1D_Mark_II_EOS_1D_Mark_.html
I sent this company $585 for sample camera, they sent me $10 fake camera.
The bank details:
Beneficiary institution: bank of china hefei branch
Swift code: bkchcnbj780
Payee: weiqiang kong
Ben's account: 4563511500007928223
address: hefei city anhui province china
Contacted Bank of China and gave details, but not very hopeful. At this stage I have details of about 30 Chinese, Indonesian, Japanese companies who claim to sell branded original cameras etc, but most are on your lists. (Only found your website after first fake arrived)
Where on earth are the real genuine original brand wholesalers in Asia.
By the way, can you tell me if these guys are original below, I don't want to lose more money.
1. Selling Imac
Company: Machan Yohan Inc.
Email: kurang.h@gmail.com
Linkman: kurang hajar
Tel: +81-52-2116328
Fax: +81-52-2119619
Country japan
Address: 379 Higashi Shinbashi
Email: kurang.h@gmail.com
2. Selling Roland printer
Fumiculla Cams Co. ID
No. 865, 6.5 Mile,
Kota Batu,
Negara Brunei Darussalam
Indonesia
Ph: 6732781199442
Account Name : Albert Watimena
Account Number : 121-700-6098
Bank Name: Bank Syariah Mandiri ( BSM )
Address : Jl.Binja Km.16 No.127A
Swift Code : BSMDIDJA
Branch : Kcp.Binjai
You cannot buy these brands from China. You need to go to the brand owners directly and deal through their authorised distribution channels
quisiera saber por este sitio si son falsificadores o estafadores; es que acabo de verlo en la lista después de darles el código de la transferencia. les agradeceré infinitamente por la respuesta.
http://vip3360.com
Hi,
this is the first time i visit.congratulations for your service.
could you pls tell me if the companies featured on ecvv.com are trustworthy ? also,where can we find your list ?
Thanks
Hello! I have ordered from www.szsuff.com, same as www.szsuff.ecw.com, www.szsuff.en.ec21.com, www.szuff.en.china.cn
12 units of cell phones. I have paid them in advance.
After one week I have got a delivery of 11 units, whereby 2 units have not been the type, which I had ordered. These 2 units do not work here.
At the moment I have lost USD 400 in dealing with this firm. They are not helping me solving the problem sind 2 weeks.
All the best
Roland